Forums

[joey @joey Participant]

Global warming started well before the Millenials came on the scene. We’ve all been dealing with global warming for decades

@sam You mean we’ve been fuelling it for decades, enjoying our cars and cheap fossil fuel energy, even though the science has been telling us for a while that it was crazy. And the worst consequences of it will be felt by the next generation, not the generation that created the problem.

I don’t think history will look kindly on the generation that knowingly, deliberately, created this problem, and I think the term crime against humanity may actually be appropriate here.

The Millenials aren’t exactly doing anything about through their actions either.

No, but they’ll have to and they will have to pay for it.

[joey @joey Participant]

@bob I don’t know where to start, pretty much every claim you’ve made in your past post are easily verifiable as completely false.

The UK finances were broadly fine before the recession. National debt was at broadly satisfying level and the increase in spending in the 2000 is statistically insignificant.

The U.K. productivity was fine before the recession, as matter of fact in 2007 we were bang on at the g7 average. Only after the recession we fell badly behind.

comparing the Great Recession with the situation in the UK 40 years ago is comparing apples and orange, you are comparing a relative decline over 30 years to an absolute decline over a couple years.

But if you try to compare it anyway, well, even then you find that the absolute decline achieved during the Great Recession, over a couple of years, was more than twice greater than the 30 year long relative decline post war. Let that sink in for a second.

[joey @joey Participant]

@gutted I agree, but to suggest millennials are having it tougher than previous generations and are coping admirably as @joey suggest is just laughable. All generations have different challenges and all cope as best they possibly can. In the 70/80s there were very very few who were doing well at all, the majority suffered for a variety of reasons.

@bob You are perfectly correct, All generations have different challenges, I would argue that the baby boomer had significantly smaller challenges than the millennials will have. By the time they were 18-20 national debt was 45%, they had the demographics in their favour, their parents had won the war and rebuilt peace, and relative economic equality.

Sure it wasn’t always rosy, as you say in the U.K. in the 70s/80s it wasn’t always easy but for a large part they were self inflicted problems. Which ties back to what I said about a generation of naive optimists who did not plan and thought everything would always be fine.

The millennials, however, will start with global warning, demographic forces not in their favour, very high levels of national debt, and victiruan levels of economic inequality. All problems they had nothing to with and that THEY will have to fix.

ho, and cherry on the cake, in the U.K., their elders have managed to get them out of the EU and deprived them of the opportunity to live and work freely in Europe. Nice gift !

No wonder that in all the surveys they are more worried than their parents about the future, study harder, drink less, take less drugs etc etc…

So yes I’m particularly impresssed by this new generation and frankly they will need to be impressive because we are leaving them a big bowl of shite.

[joey @joey Participant]

Nobody said it was “easy”.

Whether you were born in 1945, 50, or 55, things got better by the day by the time you were 18, and you had nothing to do with it. Simply because of economic and technological progress. They did drugs and alcohol and gave us f*cking great music and art because they could. They were an incredibly creative generation, but they were also naive optimists without a plan.

When it stalled in the 70s, sure the majority got left behind, but the elite was saved by economic inequality, and these elite baby boomers are still shaping politics and society today, still trying desperately to hold onto their privilege by any means possible, even if that means betraying all the ideals they had in their youth.

I’m very impressed and frankly, humbled, by the new generation, the so called “millenials”, they have grown up with the Great Recession. They know things don’t get better just by themselves. Sure all the studies show they are an anxious and stressed bunch, but maybe it’s not that bad ? They work and study hard, and they want to change the world for the better, not just make life better for themselves. I wish them good luck, they’ll need it.

[Author]

Posts